now. >> conservatives at cpac calling for tax cuts, but the president telling republicans, they can hike them or take a hike in budget cuts . senate democrats are on his side, pushing one trillion in new taxings. is this why 7 out of 10 bosses are not hiring. this is bums and bears we'll get right to it. the bums and bears, to bin and jonas and john back from his mountain climb and jamull green. >> democrats are still pushing tax hikings. is that why the companies are not hiring? >> absolutely. alm they -- all they have to do is look at history or the state nearby. on the state lemp, - level. the states that grow the most jobs are the ones without income tax. we have had this discussion many times. every time we cut taxes, the economy has grown whether on the left with president kennedy or left with reagan. the left said clinton raised taxes and what is often ignored, clinton cut the capitol gains tax and he cut spending as aercentage of gdp. the obama administration want to go the opposite way, if they do they will make fdr a libitarian. >> jamull is it good or bad for the economy?
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transportation bill and taxes i find it odd you would not invite them when they have a pretty good history of conservative governance, christie in a blue state, but invite someone donald trump and obama supporter and nancy pelosi-- and dopt have answer in the conservative movement. i would have made different decisions and my argument would be, have everybody. if you want to have donald trump, fine, have donald trump, but chris christie, too, have an argument here and fight and let the best argument at the end of the day win. >> there are 23 names on this straw poll that they will be taking later this evening. included on that list, dr. ben carson who is coming up shortly and we're waiting to hear him speak and listen to what he has to say and the only one on the list that hasn't served in political office. what do you expect to hear from him. >> he's been certainly quite a phenomenon. some of us have known about him going back a couple years, but recently, as a result of some speeches that he's given, people are paying a lot more attention to what he's saying and a lot more attention to t
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